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Just how revolutionary were AMD's K8 and K10 processors? While nowadays I'm able to see for myself in a way, (as my father's good ol' Athlon X2 5600+ is still running strong with fairly modern applications to this day) I was far too young and technologically illiterate on release to truly know about the innovation both of these architectures brought to the industry. So please, enlighten me - share your history and stories, as I'm incredibly curious. I'd love to hear about the hype and delivery that these architectures provided to enthusiasts of the past.:) EDIT: Forgot to include the K7 architecture, the original Athlon processors. Edit 2: Wow, I didn't expect such a large discussion to develop in this post.
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First PC I built was a AMD K6-2. I later upgraded to the K6-3 and being quite young I stuck with it until the K8. When the K8 came out I jumped on a Athlon64 that blew my mind, it was super fast. I had friends and family running Pentiums that just couldn't match. It wasn't until the Pentium 4 Intel started gaining momentum again.
However we all know about Intels recent case which found the Pentium 4s benchmarks to be falsified. I stuck with my Athlon64 for a good amount of time and jumped to a Athlon64x2. My experience with a dual core processor. I never had issues with it but it never really sold me on dual core processing, not like the Core 2 Duos that friends had. I almost jumped ship at that point, however I noted the Phenom line in the K10s had shown potential, I didn't bite the bullet on one until the Phenom 955 x4 BE. That processor was insane, It was my first jump into Overclocking and I had pushed it to 3.8ghz. It was amazing and got me super excited for the FX series, but made me wonder why everyone at the time was choosing Intels (Blackmail ofc) However we all know the story of the FX series and I'd still have my Phenom today if it didn't die on me after a thunderstorm.
But it died and I had a spare AM3+ Sabertooth board so I bought my current FX chip, which dont get me wrong is a good chip but it cannot keep up with Intels offerings when it comes to single thread performance which AMD massively overlooked when they decided Multi-threads was the way forward and Single would die a death quickly. So now I'm back at the point where I don't trust AMD to deliver with Zen, like I thought with the K10s. So my main rig is an FX chip but my every day work machine is a i7 surface that I am extremely happy with. We will see if AMD Deliver with Zen and I'll be waiting with baited breath.
If not I can see me buying a new i7 come March-May next year. Very, very interesting! Thanks a bunch for sharing your perspective.
I really do wish I could say the same about my family's Phenom X3 8400, which is an unfortunately poor performer - however, I have heard that the first-gen Phenom processors really weren't that great for their day anyway. Honestly, if I did have a spare AM3 board lying around, I'd most definitely give the Phenom II line a chance to impress.
Yeah, what happened with the FX line is sad, to say the least. One year ago, I built our family's gaming rig with an 8350, underestimating just how much it would under-deliver compared to my expectations.
I genuinely regret refusing to go with an intel chip (which was solely based on the fact that I was infuriated by Intel's past business practices). Ah well, at least I was able to retrofit the 8350's stock heatsink onto our 5600 - damn thing runs cooler than a cucumber nowadays. I do desperately hope that AMD can deliver with Zen, the CPU market is in dire need of some fresh, innovative competition. Innovation is the keyword.
I mean it'll be nice for AMD to regain an IPC lead/parity but AMD introduced all sorts of new ideas we take for granted. I mean in the Intel days your memory was attached to a discrete north bridge IC which added more latency, power, etc. It was AMD that advanced HT technology in the x86 consumer market. It was AMD that designed and pushed the x8664 ISA. AMD was first to SOI, they pioneered HBM, etc.
Granted Intel has their own innovations too (sse/avx/crypto/vt/etc). There's more to win than simple IPC improvements. Yea it's crazy how much AMD is behind right now.
Tho Intel did use some dirty tactics, and all the analysis said the 1.4 billion compensation Intel paid AMD wasn't nearly enough. At the time it was Intel playing some serious catch up. They were behind in most performance categories and Intel was also terrible at gaming. AMD is the true innovator imaging if they had the cash that Intel has and could go ham on R&D. Same as GCN designed with async compute in mind since 2011 that our software is just catching on in 2016 with dx12 and vulkan. AMD needs a genius marketer like Steve Jobs lol. Somehow every time AMD has a technology lead they fail to capitalizing on that lead in term of total market share.
Then unable to recoup their development cost or unable to continue developing and innovating. Also same for HBMs. AMD could've kept it to themselves for awhile and keep it out of access by nVidia at least for awhile. HBM2 is so amazing that nVidia has no issue putting AMD technology (HBM2) on their Volta. And since AMD owns the IP to all HBM related properties they could've use HBM2 on Vega locks nVidia out so nVidia Volta will have to settle with the much slower GDDR5X until maybe HMC comes out in 3 years. Sometimes I dont get what AMD is thinking. I don't know what went into the CMT design.
I worked for AMD in the pre-bulldozer days, left, and have since come back last year in the RTG (so GPU side). I remember thinking back then that the narrower 'let's borrow the AGU for basic add/moves' was a bad idea back then.
What made the K8 kickass was the 3-wide ALU over the Intel '2-almost wide' P4. Going backwards to 2-wide seemed like a bad idea and has proven to be so.
The CMT designs seemed like a doubling down on this philosophy by reducing the FPU and DECODE pipes even further. But keep in mind historically AMD was always 2nd fiddle to Intel. They were a second source supplier of x86 chips for IBM and it was a protracted legal fight to even start producing their own x86 designs. Intel has fought AMD every step of the way including legal and dodgy methods of hampering competition.
So it's hardly fair to blame all of the x86 woes on AMD alone. They were reacting largely to the reality of their market share and capitalization.
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